Debbie Vane is an environmental geologist turned mentor in mathematics and science. She has developed a math club for homeschool students ages 6-14, including her son, to help them learn problem-solving strategies. In the club, everyone works on the same concept, but solves different problems. Debbie supports mixed-age groups, because they are more representative of the real world.
Here is Debbie Vane’s interview for 1001 Circles, a series of stories that show what a math circle might be like, from the point of view of circle leaders. We hope these stories will inform and inspire you to lead a circle of your own. If you lead a math circle, an engineering club, or an informal playgroup, we would like to hear your story or interview you. Write moby@moebiusnoodles.com to talk about your adventures.
Please tell us about yourself. What are your dreams regarding students and mathematics?
From an early age, I wanted to save the world, really. After spending years as an environmental geologist cleaning up soil and groundwater, I became discouraged by the lack of commitment of big business to clean up their act. I decided the best way to facilitate change was to educate future generations. As a teacher, I instill a love of learning and stewardship of the planet by showing that everything is connected. My background as a scientist naturally led me to teach math — the language of science. Today, as a homeschooler of my son and other children, my goal is to inspire a love of learning of math, break down negative patterns from past experiences with math, and empower students to be the creators of their knowledge. I am less of a teacher and more of a mentor, assisting each student to find their innate talents and set their own learning goals.
What helped you to start the club when you decided it’s needed? What kept you going?
I had taught middle school math for a few years. The greatest impact on learning was always cooperative projects. I decided to start a Math Club for homeschoolers, using projects and simulations as the spine of the club. The enthusiasm and excitement of the kids in the club confirmed that the club was needed and enjoyed by all.
How does it feel to have a wide range of ages together? How do you adapt activities?
Prior to homeschooling, I had never experienced or taught in a multi-age class setting. Having a class with kids ranging in age from 6 to 14, I quickly saw the benefits! For example, I offered a problem-solving unit using an Interact program called MathQuest. Kids traversed MathLand in teams. They earned travel dots by solving and writing word problems. Along the way, the kids drew fate cards, which were always entertaining, and purchased supplies to help them navigate the path.
In one group, there was a 9 year old and a 13 year old. The two students approached problem solving differently. One student was visual and the other student needed to express their thought processes out loud. The 13 year old would draw a picture of the problem, and the 9 year old would verbalize her understanding of the drawing. They worked together until they had a shared understanding and solved the problem.
A benefit of multi-age classes is that the students rarely compare themselves to others. They recognize everyone is of a different age, so there is no sense of competition to be better than one another. There is a general acceptance that everyone is unique, with different levels of skills. There is more cooperation in the class. A 13 year old recalls their skills and challenges when they were 9 year old. They are patient, helpful, and feel like they are a mentor to the younger student. Sometimes, the younger child may have a better understanding and the roles are reversed. I model that all of us have strengths and weaknesses in math and that comparing ourselves to others isn’t useful for developing our understanding. My ultimate goal is for kids to feel comfortable with their skill level wherever they are, and to believe that their worth isn’t tied to what they know but to who they are. This is the reverse of the current competitive world.
When we were learning the problem-solving strategies, each child received different word problems to solve that were appropriate for their age and skill level. Parents always asked me if it was way too much work to create problems for each individual student. My response was always that education needs to be tailored to individual needs. While it was “extra” work for me, it was worth it because I saw growth in each individual, not only in skill level but also in confidence.

Can you share an activity from your club?
I like Marcy Cook’s tile activities. They require critical thinking, are challenging, and don’t ask kids to write to solve problems. The students like the activities. Who doesn’t like to solve a puzzle? The tile packet activities range from operations with numbers to geometry concepts and algebraic reasoning. Students work on a tile activity by themselves, and then ask another student to check their work and offer different solutions. Here is my photo of a tile activity card.

What would you recommend to someone who is thinking of leading a math club or math circle for the first time?
I would recommend to start small and stay within your wheel house. Choose content that you have mastered so that you have confidence to mentor the students in all areas of the topic.
I also believe that it is so important to let the students direct the learning. Go with their interests. Find a way to bring the content into their arena, and you will have willing and eager students.
Finally, embrace and celebrate mistakes. The author Neil Gaiman said, “Make interesting mistakes, make amazing mistakes, make glorious mistakes.” If a student makes a mistake a lot of times, they equate that to not being smart or capable. We need to help students see mistakes as opportunities to learn. I intentionally make mistakes and let them correct me! I laugh when I make a mistake, and model that it doesn’t affect my confidence, my self esteem, or my desire to persevere and solve problems.
1001 Circles is a series of stories that show what a math circle might be like, from the point of view of circle leaders. We hope these stories will inform and inspire you to lead a circle of your own. And if you lead a math circle, an engineering club, or an informal playgroup, we would like to hear your story or interview you. Write moby@moebiusnoodles.com to talk about your adventures.

Today we meet DrTechniko, who wants to educate young minds about the scientific thought process, computer science and technology – and one day fill the world with young geniuses. DrTechniko’s stories and games teach kids concepts about programming, artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, computer design in the same fun and engaging way as “grandma’s storytelling time” when we were kids.
DrTechniko in real life is Nikos Michalakis. Nikos graduated from MIT with honors (TBP, HKN) with an undergrad and Masters degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science and a minor in Mathematics. He then did post-graduate studies at NYU’s Courant Institute. He has done research at MIT’s Media Lab and Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence laboratories and companies like Nokia and Sun Microsystems. He has published his research in prestigious conferences. He also gained practical experience on the applications of science and technology by being involved with multiple high-tech start-up companies over the years. He currently works at Knewton, an adaptive learning education technology company. He lives in Williamsburg, Brooklyn with his wife and their two sons.
Here is DrTechniko’s story, which originally appeared on his site. Adaptations for older and younger kids are added at the end.
Last Sunday, I taught six kids of ages 5 to 7 how to program. “In what programming language?” you may ask. Well…I didn’t use a programming language, at least none that you know of. In fact, I didn’t even use a computer. Instead, I devised a game called “How To Train Your Robot”. Before I explain how the game works, let me tell my motivation.
I learned how to program during my freshman year at MIT when I was 19. It’s not because I didn’t have a computer at home or I hadn’t heard about programming languages. It was because (a) I thought programming was boring and (b) no one had told me why I should bother. In fact, my computer teacher in high school had told me “you don’t need to waste your time learning how to program. Now we have visual tools to build programs. Programming languages are already obsolete.” That was in 1994 and he was referring to Visual Basic. Luckily for me MIT wiped all that nonsense away in a matter of weeks. But does one need to wait to go to college to get the proper education?
Learning how to program is going to be the most useful new skill we can teach our kids today. More than ever our lives depend on how smart we are when we instruct computers. They hold our personal data and they make decisions for us. They communicate for us and they are gradually becoming an extension of our brains. If we don’t learn programming as part of our childhood, we will never evolve. As the famous futurist, Ray Kurzweil, put it “The only second language you should worry about your kids learning is programming.”
How To Train Your Robot
The game works as follows: every kid is turned into a “robot master” and their mom or dad becomes their “robot”. I give each kid a “Robot Language Dictionary” and explain to them that this is the language their robot understands. The dictionary has symbols for “move left leg forward”, “turn left”, “grab”, “drop” etc.

The goal is for the robots to go through an obstacle course, pick up a ball and bring it back. The kids have to write a program that will tell the robot how to do all that. Every time they write a program, they hand it to their robot and the robot executes it. To do that, I give each kid a pen and paper where they copy symbols from the dictionary to write their programs and off their robots go!

The fun part begins when each robot retrieves the ball. Now I let kids invent their own moves and symbols that they add to their dictionary and then teach their robots. There is no limit to what the kids come up with.
This is my favorite program (written by a five year old girl):

I designed the class to teach some very basic principles of computer science and programming:
Programming languages are just another way to communicate to an entity (via programs).
Programs are recipes for automating stuff.
However, I was pleasantly surprised on how much more the kids learned. On their own they figured out the following things (in a 30-min session):
I’ve ran the class twice now and I’ve seen the same patterns, which support my belief that when kids have fun, they get very smart and creative about programming. Many of the parents plan to play the game at birthday parties. If you have questions about how to set up the game, don’t hesitate to write. You can find my contact info at www.facebook.com/drtechniko.


Math Mind Hacks is a series of mini-posters about quick, smart activities that grow mathematical minds. Today’s hack is inspired by a story Gregorio Morales told in response to my interview 5-Year-Olds Can Learn Calculus:
I work with children 12-16 years old. My idea is to incorporate creativity in their mathematical works. For example, one of the activities I use is to show a number (for example, 9) as the answer of a problem, and then I ask them for the problem. At first the problems are rather weak: “I have 4 apples and Peter gives me 5 more, how many apples do I have now?” But as the class goes on, some very beautiful problems arise. Maybe another day the number is 259 and they find it harder to come with a nice problem. And another day I go to class with the number 1278513. It’s incredible how many mathematical concepts they are able to invent in order to find a beautiful problem whose answer is my given number.
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Back in early June, the Moebius Noodles crew participated in the Maker Faire in Raleigh, NC. We enjoyed coming up with maker-style math adventures. And we’ve seen so much joy from children and adults who made their own mathematics at our booth! That’s why we want to continue that theme: MATH IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT.
So we decided to make MAKING our theme for this year’s celebration of Mathematics Storytelling Day, September 25. We are inviting you to join our community of kids and adults from around the world in storytelling, with your story of what you make of mathematics – in pictures or words.

In the spirit of making, with this awesome design by our illustrator Mark Gonyea, we’ll produce a small quantity of Math Maker t-shirts. See the Math Storytelling Day page for details.
What if we could learn math like children learn music within a cultural tradition? What if we could learn math by being immersed in meaning and expression from the moment we’re born? These questions come up as Malke Rosenfeld and I watch kids and adults dancing and making music. What do you think?

“Mom, it’s a fractal of square numbers!” – Yelena McManaman and her son invite you to explore multiplication patterns with Perler beads.

Check out this review of traditional, or new and surprising finger tricks for math from Marina Mersenne, including a way to make Fibonacci spirals with hands, and the Official Math Salute. If your kids can’t get enough of these tricks, here is how to count to 99 on your fingers that goes back to the Soroban abacus – with big thanks to Alexander Bogomolny for his photos!

Who is this mystery person? A teacher, a US president, a young kid, or maybe a whole family sharing an account? What is that person’s real grade level in mathematics? Look at the screen capture from a Khan Academy profile, and try to guess by August 10, when we will reveal the answer.

“Really Big Numbers is a small book that can take a long time to read or even look through. It is a chance to learn something new about the really big numbers. But it is also a chance to experience the awe, the mystery and the playfulness of math with your child and as a child.” Read the full review of the new book from the author of “You can count on monsters” posters.
In the last newsletter, we announced plans for a training program for new math circle leaders. The goal for the program members will be to prepare, plan, and run their first circles this fall. The response has been very enthusiastic. We are exchanging letters with prospective members of the math circle incubator. Together, we can create a program that addresses the worries, turns dreams into plans, and makes a difference for the children.
Write moby@moebiusnoodles.com if you are interested in participating!
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Talk to you soon! Moby Snoodles, aka Dr. Maria Droujkova